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Alfredo Di Napoli
Hi guys,

after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys at
the Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:

https://github.com/XMonad

Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The
plan is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
related product like
osxmonad.


Cheers,
Alfredo
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Carsten Mattner-2
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
<alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys at the
> Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
> Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
>
> https://github.com/XMonad

Is this official?

> Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The plan
> is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other related
> product like
> osxmonad.

Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
to have it
all lowercase.


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Alfredo Di Napoli
On 7 November 2012 15:12, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys at
> the
> > Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
> > Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
> >
> > https://github.com/XMonad
>
> Is this official?
>

What do you mean by official? It's an effort to be as official as possible.
That means involving the whole
xmonad community, the more the merrier. I've started it just because I
wanted to go for a "kickstart" to accelerate
the process. Whoever wants can partecipate. I hope this to be the official
xmonad organization :)


>
> > Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The
> plan
> > is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
> related
> > product like
> > osxmonad.
>
> Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
> It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
> to have it
> all lowercase.
>

Done :)
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Carsten Mattner-2
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
<alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 7 November 2012 15:12, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
>> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys at
>> > the
>> > Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
>> > Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/XMonad
>>
>> Is this official?
>
>
> What do you mean by official? It's an effort to be as official as possible.
> That means involving the whole
> xmonad community, the more the merrier. I've started it just because I
> wanted to go for a "kickstart" to accelerate
> the process. Whoever wants can partecipate. I hope this to be the official
> xmonad organization :)

I understand :).

>> > Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The
>> > plan
>> > is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
>> > related
>> > product like
>> > osxmonad.
>>
>> Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
>> It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
>> to have it
>> all lowercase.
>
>
> Done :)

Thanks.


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Alfredo Di Napoli
If you have a github account and want to get involved, please let me know
and I'll make you owner :)

On 7 November 2012 15:18, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 7 November 2012 15:12, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
> >> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> >
> >> > after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys
> at
> >> > the
> >> > Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
> >> > Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/XMonad
> >>
> >> Is this official?
> >
> >
> > What do you mean by official? It's an effort to be as official as
> possible.
> > That means involving the whole
> > xmonad community, the more the merrier. I've started it just because I
> > wanted to go for a "kickstart" to accelerate
> > the process. Whoever wants can partecipate. I hope this to be the
> official
> > xmonad organization :)
>
> I understand :).
>
> >> > Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe.
> The
> >> > plan
> >> > is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
> >> > related
> >> > product like
> >> > osxmonad.
> >>
> >> Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
> >> It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
> >> to have it
> >> all lowercase.
> >
> >
> > Done :)
>
> Thanks.
>
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timothyhobbs@seznam.cz
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I want it to be official.? But it won't look officialish to the distro
maintainers till http://xmonad.org/download.html links to it ;)




So who maintains that site?




Tim




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Od: Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>
Datum: 7. 11. 2012
P?edm?t: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and
better
"On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
<alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 7 November 2012 15:12, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
>> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys
at

>> > the
>> > Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
>> > Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/XMonad(https://github.com/XMonad)
>>
>> Is this official?
>
>
> What do you mean by official? It's an effort to be as official as
possible.
> That means involving the whole
> xmonad community, the more the merrier. I've started it just because I
> wanted to go for a "kickstart" to accelerate
> the process. Whoever wants can partecipate. I hope this to be the official
> xmonad organization :)

I understand :).

>> > Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The
>> > plan
>> > is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
>> > related
>> > product like
>> > osxmonad.
>>
>> Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
>> It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
>> to have it
>> all lowercase.
>
>
> Done :)

Thanks.

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wagnerdm@seas.upenn.edu
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Hi Alfredo,

> As part of this community effort, I would like to find a Wiki, a  
> forum, a ML or an IRC channel when we can talk about the future of  
> XMonad.

We have all of these except a forum:

wiki: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad
ML: you're on it, xmonad at haskell.org
IRC channel: #xmonad on Freenode

> As first step, I would like to enhance the XMonad website, with  
> something more "cool" and more 2.0-style.

Perhaps fork the current website and make a proposal by submitting a  
pull request. The repository is here:
http://github.com/davidlazar/xmonad.org
I'm not sure I agree that the current website is particularly  
defective, though.

> I would like to discuss an architecture that can modularize XMonad  
> at the point we have a lean, platform-independent microkernel (see  
> the "Microkernel" architectural pattern) and then a whole family of  
> platform dependent product (OSX, Linux, etc).

This is already how xmonad is structured. The xmonad library provides  
a StackSet which is completely divorced from X, and a thin wrapper  
that connects X and a StackSet. If you want to see platform-dependent  
products, feel free to build them on top of xmonad and let us know!

~d

Quoting Alfredo Di Napoli <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com>:

> Hi guys,
>
> after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys at
> the Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
> Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
>
> https://github.com/XMonad
>
> Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe. The
> plan is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
> related product like
> osxmonad.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alfredo
>



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Carsten Mattner-2
In reply to this post by Alfredo Di Napoli
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
<alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you have a github account and want to get involved, please let me know
> and I'll make you owner :)

Are you sure you don't mean github organization team member?

> On 7 November 2012 15:18, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
>> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7 November 2012 15:12, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
>> >> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > after a conversation with the current maintainer (Adam) and some guys
>> >> > at
>> >> > the
>> >> > Copenhagen Uni I'm trying to convey XMonad efforts in a single point.
>> >> > Therefore, I've created this organization on Github:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://github.com/XMonad
>> >>
>> >> Is this official?
>> >
>> >
>> > What do you mean by official? It's an effort to be as official as
>> > possible.
>> > That means involving the whole
>> > xmonad community, the more the merrier. I've started it just because I
>> > wanted to go for a "kickstart" to accelerate
>> > the process. Whoever wants can partecipate. I hope this to be the
>> > official
>> > xmonad organization :)
>>
>> I understand :).
>>
>> >> > Please share your thoughts in the README repo, fire an issue maybe.
>> >> > The
>> >> > plan
>> >> > is to integrate XMonad with the latest patches, together with other
>> >> > related
>> >> > product like
>> >> > osxmonad.
>> >>
>> >> Would you mind making the github org's name all lowercase?
>> >> It accepts all variations of 'xmonad' but I believe it will be cleaner
>> >> to have it
>> >> all lowercase.
>> >
>> >
>> > Done :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>


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Alfredo Di Napoli
Wow, good to see such answers, that means I've made a point :)
Please note I've created the organization only this morning, so you are
strongly encouraged to partecipate!
As regards the "officiality" stuff, I've just started to work on a new
website to include the old content, but in a more attractive way, no
nothing that will disregard the original content.
It would only be a Twitter Bootstrap website that WE hack on as soon as I
do the first commit.
It will be a Hakyll website, so we can still modularize the content and
stick to the DRY principle.

On 7 November 2012 15:29, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli
> <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you have a github account and want to get involved, please let me know
> > and I'll make you owner :)
>
> Are you sure you don't mean github organization team member?


When you become part of a Github organization, usually you do it as an
Owner. You can create new repo, push and commit, etc :)
Since is a community effort, I don't see a point in don't making anyone of
you an owner :)
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Alfredo Di Napoli
In a nutshell, even before worrying about the old and the new, I'm focusing
in proposing something better organized and a more pleasant website.
Then we can propose and substitute the "old" stuff :)

As regards the forum, I suggest you open an issue in the "README" repo of
the xmonad organization, so you can list all your "TODO".
This way, we don't lose anything and we have everything tracked and
organized!
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Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Alfredo Di Napoli <
alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:

> In a nutshell, even before worrying about the old and the new, I'm
> focusing in proposing something better organized and a more pleasant
> website.
> Then we can propose and substitute the "old" stuff :)
>

So the github-is-the-only-way-OBEY crowd is now using "just force the
issue" to steal control of projects to the One True System?

--
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allbery.b at gmail.com                                  ballbery at sinenomine.net
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Alfredo Di Napoli
Sorry Brandon, I don't understand if is a praise or a rant :S

On 7 November 2012 16:58, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Alfredo Di Napoli <
> alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In a nutshell, even before worrying about the old and the new, I'm
>> focusing in proposing something better organized and a more pleasant
>> website.
>> Then we can propose and substitute the "old" stuff :)
>>
>
> So the github-is-the-only-way-OBEY crowd is now using "just force the
> issue" to steal control of projects to the One True System?
>
> --
> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine
> associates
> allbery.b at gmail.com
> ballbery at sinenomine.net
> unix/linux, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure
> http://sinenomine.net
>
>
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Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Alfredo Di Napoli <
alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry Brandon, I don't understand if is a praise or a rant :S


I'm not surprised a Holy Evangelist of the One True Church can't tell the
difference.

This is far form the first time I've seen some evangelist of the Only True
Version Control try to browbeat, protection-racket, or JW some project into
converting to the One True Church of Github.  The Mormon take (hey, it's
not on github, it's obviously unmaintained, leaderless, disorganized, and
without any version control whatsoever; let's do a posthumous conversion,
because if they'd only Known about The One True Church they obviously would
have been part of the One True Church, right?) is a new one, but not
surprising.

Go preach somewhere else.

--
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allbery.b at gmail.com                                  ballbery at sinenomine.net
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timothyhobbs@seznam.cz
Alfredo,

Please don't be discouraged by this criticism.

Timothy


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Od: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
Datum: 7. 11. 2012
P?edm?t: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and
better
"

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Alfredo Di Napoli <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.
com(mailto:alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com)> wrote:

"Sorry Brandon, I don't understand if is a praise or a rant :S"



I'm not surprised a Holy Evangelist of the One True Church can't tell the
difference.




This is far form the first time I've seen some evangelist of the Only True
Version Control try to browbeat, protection-racket, or JW some project into
converting to the One True Church of Github. ?The Mormon take (hey, it's not
on github, it's obviously unmaintained, leaderless, disorganized, and
without any version control whatsoever; let's do a posthumous conversion,
because if they'd only Known about The One True Church they obviously would
have been part of the One True Church, right?) is a new one, but not
surprising.




Go preach somewhere else.




--


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allbery.b at gmail.com(mailto:allbery.b at gmail.com) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ?ballbery at sinenomine.net(mailto:ballbery at sinenomine.net)
 
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(http://sinenomine.net)


 

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Alfredo Di Napoli
Hey Timothy,

don't worry, I don't even respond to meaningless criticism :)
Have a nice day, all of you, and If you want to push and spread the
initiative, feel free to :)

Cheers,
A.

On 7 November 2012 18:01, <timothyhobbs at seznam.cz> wrote:

> Alfredo,
>
> Please don't be discouraged by this criticism.
>
> Timothy
>
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Joachim Breitner-2
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Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 07.11.2012, 18:01 +0100 schrieb timothyhobbs at seznam.cz:
> Please don't be discouraged by this criticism.

yes, I agree, please do not.

But what I read out of Brandon?s mails is: It is not a different
infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
maintenance and development. I?ve often seen people get excited about
taking over a project, throw over a lot of existing infrastructure to
set up what they want, and when the enthusiasm ebbs down, everything is
as it is before.

What I would like to see is new people stepping up to maintain xmonad,
but within the current infrastructure first. Go through the bugtracker,
fix bugs (including the hard ones, e.g. focus issues with java and gtk3)
put out a release of xmonad on hackage (remember, no special permissions
needed for that!), make it compile with GHC 7.6. Do that for a while
(say, two months or a little bit more). If you are still doing it by
that time, you will have earned enough reputation within the xmonad
community to be considered the ?official? project lead and you will be
most welcome to change the VCS, bugtracker and website to whatever you
think suits the project more.

This also prevents the risk of alienating parts of the community by
rushed changes and effectively creating a fork ? one still dormant, but
considered the real thing by many, and one developing away from it.

In any case, I wish you?ll succeed in reactivating the xmonad
development.

Greetings,
Joachim
(with his xmonad Debian package maintainer hat not on, but tucked under
his arm)

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Eric Velten de Melo
2012/11/7 Joachim Breitner <mail at joachim-breitner.de>:

> Hi,
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 07.11.2012, 18:01 +0100 schrieb timothyhobbs at seznam.cz:
>> Please don't be discouraged by this criticism.
>
> yes, I agree, please do not.
>
> But what I read out of Brandon?s mails is: It is not a different
> infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
> maintenance and development. I?ve often seen people get excited about
> taking over a project, throw over a lot of existing infrastructure to
> set up what they want, and when the enthusiasm ebbs down, everything is
> as it is before.
>
> What I would like to see is new people stepping up to maintain xmonad,
> but within the current infrastructure first. Go through the bugtracker,
> fix bugs (including the hard ones, e.g. focus issues with java and gtk3)
> put out a release of xmonad on hackage (remember, no special permissions
> needed for that!), make it compile with GHC 7.6. Do that for a while
> (say, two months or a little bit more). If you are still doing it by
> that time, you will have earned enough reputation within the xmonad
> community to be considered the ?official? project lead and you will be
> most welcome to change the VCS, bugtracker and website to whatever you
> think suits the project more.
>
> This also prevents the risk of alienating parts of the community by
> rushed changes and effectively creating a fork ? one still dormant, but
> considered the real thing by many, and one developing away from it.
>
> In any case, I wish you?ll succeed in reactivating the xmonad
> development.

I agree with Joachim. Just saying.

>
> Greetings,
> Joachim
> (with his xmonad Debian package maintainer hat not on, but tucked under
> his arm)
>
> --
> Joachim "nomeata" Breitner
>   mail at joachim-breitner.de  |  nomeata at debian.org  |  GPG: 0x4743206C
>   xmpp: nomeata at joachim-breitner.de | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> xmonad mailing list
> xmonad at haskell.org
> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/xmonad
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Carsten Mattner-2
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Joachim Breitner
<mail at joachim-breitner.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 07.11.2012, 18:01 +0100 schrieb timothyhobbs at seznam.cz:
>> Please don't be discouraged by this criticism.
>
> yes, I agree, please do not.
>
> But what I read out of Brandon?s mails is: It is not a different
> infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
> maintenance and development. I?ve often seen people get excited about
> taking over a project, throw over a lot of existing infrastructure to
> set up what they want, and when the enthusiasm ebbs down, everything is
> as it is before.
>
> What I would like to see is new people stepping up to maintain xmonad,
> but within the current infrastructure first. Go through the bugtracker,
> fix bugs (including the hard ones, e.g. focus issues with java and gtk3)
> put out a release of xmonad on hackage (remember, no special permissions
> needed for that!), make it compile with GHC 7.6. Do that for a while

xmonad and XMonadContrib has been working with GHC 7.6
for quite some time now (I believe at least 2 months).

> (say, two months or a little bit more). If you are still doing it by
> that time, you will have earned enough reputation within the xmonad
> community to be considered the ?official? project lead and you will be
> most welcome to change the VCS, bugtracker and website to whatever you
> think suits the project more.
>
> This also prevents the risk of alienating parts of the community by
> rushed changes and effectively creating a fork ? one still dormant, but
> considered the real thing by many, and one developing away from it.
>
> In any case, I wish you?ll succeed in reactivating the xmonad
> development.
>
> Greetings,
> Joachim
> (with his xmonad Debian package maintainer hat not on, but tucked under
> his arm)
>
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A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and better

Brandon Allbery
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Joachim Breitner
<mail at joachim-breitner.de>wrote:

> But what I read out of Brandon?s mails is: It is not a different
> infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
> maintenance and development. I?ve often seen people get excited about
>

It's part that (and how much activity do you think a Haskell-based project
gets?  if I applied the Githubbers; Witnesses model to *that* I get a
rewrite into PHP!) and part that I detest Github evangelists.

It really is The One True Church behavior.  We don't exist, have no
organization, etc. because we had the presumption to not use The Holy
Github?  This is the message of Github evangelists, repeatedly, on multiple
projects.

NO.

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A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and better

timothyhobbs@seznam.cz
Read back in this thread.? There was no sugestion that someone doesn't
exist.? Alfredo asked if the project was maintained after discovering that
there were not many recent commits to the darcs repo and patches for bugs
which had yet to be merged.? Another user chimed in that they too would like
those patches merged into master and that the lack of a maintainer was what
was holding things back.? That second user said that they were maintaining
their fixed repo on github.? Alfredo kindly volunteered to maintain the
project, and suggested bringing the project onto github.? No assumption was
ever made by anyone.? Except perhaps Alfredo's assumption that the website
needed a re-write as well :P

Tim


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Datum: 7. 11. 2012
P?edm?t: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Joachim Breitner <mail at joachim-breitner.de
(mailto:mail at joachim-breitner.de)> wrote:

" But what I read out of Brandon?s mails is: It is not a different
infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
maintenance and development. I?ve often seen people get excited about
"



It's part that (and how much activity do you think a Haskell-based project
gets? ?if I applied the Githubbers; Witnesses model to *that* I get a
rewrite into PHP!) and part that I detest Github evangelists.




It really is The One True Church behavior. ?We don't exist, have no
organization, etc. because we had the presumption to not use The Holy
Github? ?This is the message of Github evangelists, repeatedly, on multiple
projects.




NO.




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allbery.b at gmail.com(mailto:allbery.b at gmail.com) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ?ballbery at sinenomine.net(mailto:ballbery at sinenomine.net)
 
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(http://sinenomine.net)


 

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