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Linspire/Freespire Core OS Team and Haskell

Clifford Beshers-2
The OS team at Linspire, Inc. would like to announce that we are
standardizing on Haskell as our preferred language for core OS development.

We are redoing a bunch of our infrastructure using Haskell as our common
standard language. Our first task is redoing our Debian package builder
(aka autobuilder) in Haskell.  Other tools such as ISO builders, package
dependency checkers are in progress. The goal is to make a really tight
simple set of tools that will let developers contribute to Freespire,
based on Debian tools whenever possible. Our hardware detector,
currently in OCaml, is on the block to be rewritten as well.

There are four of us using Haskell, all CCed on this message.  All of us
have been using functional languages for quite some time.  At Linspire,
our choices have been OCaml and Haskell. David Fox wrote the hardware
detector in OCaml and is now porting it to Haskell.  Jeremy Shaw has
been doing various utilities in Haskell for several years.  Sean Meiners
recently wrote an application for managing his recipe collection and is
now hooked.  I am porting our CD build procedure from OCaml to Haskell.

We are interested in many other uses of Haskell.  The recent discussion
about Haskell as a shell interests greatly, for example, as we have all
suffered through years of bash code.  We'd also like to make some
Haskell bindings for Qt and KDE, though at the moment we don't have a
good plan to tackle that problem efficiently.

To date, Linspire (formerly Lindows) has focused on polishing Linux for
the consumer market.  I mentioned Freespire, above.  We announced
Freespire recently (www.freespire.org).  Essentially it is a more open,
developer friendly version of Linspire.  
http://freespire.org/about/vision and http://freespire.org/support/faqs 
have good overviews.  Access through apt, open-source CNR client and
many other good things.

I mention Freespire because some of our colleagues were concerned that
using Haskell would isolate us from the larger community of developers
and make it hard to find new employees skilled in Haskell, should we
need to.  From our perspective, functional programming makes us more
effective and we think that getting even a few people who know Haskell
hacking with us is a better combination than lots of Perl and bash.  I'm
not sure I expect anyone on this list to disagree, but still I'd love to
hear your thoughts on the subject.

Also, Linspire is based on Debian. We've talked a little with John
Goerzen who announced his missingH library here a while back.  We've
imported it and expect to pass updates back to him as well as any other
libraries and tools that he would be interested in includng in the
Debian archive.  Also, it seems there are quite a few other libraries
out there which are either not debianized or stale.  We are looking into
helping the folks on the debian-haskell list with that, if possible,
documenting and automating wherever possible.



Clifford Beshers <[hidden email]>
OS Team Lead
Linspire, Inc.

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Re: Linspire/Freespire Core OS Team and Haskell

Bulat Ziganshin-2
Hello Clifford,

Saturday, May 13, 2006, 9:28:56 PM, you wrote:

> The OS team at Linspire, Inc. would like to announce that we are
> standardizing on Haskell as our preferred language for core OS development.

it's fantastic! i well know about Lindows and never think that so
interesting packages are really written in Haskell, especially that
they use Haskell as their only language

about languages - i think that even Ocaml has much greater programmers
base. also i suggest you to learn ruby - it's a great alternative to
perl/python and i think that you should at least know such interesting
language. you can find good introduction to ruby somewhere at
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ruby/index.html


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