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Simon Peyton-Jones

New libraries process

Friends

Last month Simon M and I put forward a proposal to revise the process for developing the Core Haskell libraries:
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions/NewDraft

There was some discussion, leading to improvements now incorporated in the draft, but I believe that there was general support; indeed no one opposed the change.

Several weeks have gone by, so I suggest that we adopt the new process forthwith. Unless I hear otherwise I'll replace
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions
with the new process in a day or two.

We still need volunteers to become the maintainer of
mtl
random [though I think someone maybe did volunteer, Daniel perhaps?]
Win32
Please!

best wishes

Simon

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Daniel Fischer

Re: New libraries process

On Tuesday 07 June 2011, 23:42:41, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:

> Friends
>
> Last month Simon M and I put forward a proposal to revise the process
> for developing the Core Haskell libraries:
> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions/NewDraft
>
> There was some discussion, leading to improvements now incorporated in
> the draft, but I believe that there was general support; indeed no one
> opposed the change.
>
> Several weeks have gone by, so I suggest that we adopt the new process
> forthwith. Unless I hear otherwise I'll replace
> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions
> with the new process in a day or two.

Great.

>
> We still need volunteers to become the maintainer of
> mtl
> random [though I think someone maybe did volunteer, Daniel perhaps?]

Yes. I could also take over mtl, though I'd prefer to have a partner for
that one.

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Edward A Kmett

Re: New libraries process

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I would be willing to pick up maintainership on mtl.

I already maintain its categorical dual after all, and it doesn't change all that often.

-Edward

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Simon Peyton-Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

Friends

Last month Simon M and I put forward a proposal to revise the process for developing the Core Haskell libraries:
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions/NewDraft

There was some discussion, leading to improvements now incorporated in the draft, but I believe that there was general support; indeed no one opposed the change.

Several weeks have gone by, so I suggest that we adopt the new process forthwith. Unless I hear otherwise I'll replace
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions
with the new process in a day or two.

We still need volunteers to become the maintainer of
mtl
random [though I think someone maybe did volunteer, Daniel perhaps?]
Win32
Please!

best wishes

Simon

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Simon Peyton-Jones

RE: New libraries process

Great, thank you! mtl it is.

Simon

From: Edward Kmett [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 07 June 2011 23:48
To: Simon Peyton-Jones
Cc: Haskell Libraries
Subject: Re: New libraries process

I would be willing to pick up maintainership on mtl.

I already maintain its categorical dual after all, and it doesn't change all that often.

-Edward

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Chris Dornan

RE: New libraries process

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New libraries process

Congrats on the award by the way – you have been winning my own superhero award but it’s cool to see some objective recognition.

I had volunteered for random (and anything else you needed) – I thought you were being diplomatic (and maybe you were).

Just made the major delivery on my contract so definitely feeling like some good works are in order…

Cheers,

Chris

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Simon Peyton-Jones
Sent: 07 June 2011 10:43 PM
To: Haskell Libraries
Cc: Simon Peyton-Jones
Subject: New libraries process

Friends

Last month Simon M and I put forward a proposal to revise the process for developing the Core Haskell libraries:
        http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions/NewDraft

There was some discussion, leading to improvements now incorporated in the draft, but I believe that there was general support; indeed no one opposed the change.

Several weeks have gone by, so I suggest that we adopt the new process forthwith. Unless I hear otherwise I'll replace
        http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions
with the new process in a day or two.

We still need volunteers to become the maintainer of
        mtl
        random [though I think someone maybe did volunteer, Daniel perhaps?]
        Win32
Please!

best wishes

Simon

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Ryan Newton

Re: New libraries process

Chris, Daniel, it looks like you both volunteered in this thread to be the "random" maintainer. Whoever it ends up being -- if you would like any backup I'd be happy to be listed as a co-maintainer. I have some interest in the topic because I was doing a bit of work recently on splittable RNG.

By the way, what is the feeling about using the FFI and foreign code in core libraries' implementations (aside from unix)? The reason I ask is that it would be nice to fix the statistical weakness in System.Random.split and I think the best way to do it is:

(1) use a cryptographic RNG technique
(2) use native code and possibly HW acceleration to make up for the performance hit in (1)

I did a prototype of this in http://hackage.haskell.org/package/intel-aes, and it seemed to have the potential to make a decent stdGen. First, this is because on the hardware I tested there was no performance regression relative to System.Random -- the portable, C, AES-based implementation performs a little better than the pure Haskell System.Random. Second, newer Intel and AMD machines have AESNI, which at least doubles the performance over the portable software version.

So it's a win for both performance and correctness; BUT there's more work to ensure portability across hardware and across Haskell implementations -- so does that tradeoff have any chance for a Core library?

-Ryan

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Chris Dornan <[hidden email]> wrote:

Congrats on the award by the way – you have been winning my own superhero award but it’s cool to see some objective recognition.

I had volunteered for random (and anything else you needed) – I thought you were being diplomatic (and maybe you were).

Just made the major delivery on my contract so definitely feeling like some good works are in order…

Cheers,

Chris

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Simon Peyton-Jones
Sent: 07 June 2011 10:43 PM
To: Haskell Libraries
Cc: Simon Peyton-Jones
Subject: New libraries process

Friends

Last month Simon M and I put forward a proposal to revise the process for developing the Core Haskell libraries:
        http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions/NewDraft

There was some discussion, leading to improvements now incorporated in the draft, but I believe that there was general support; indeed no one opposed the change.

Several weeks have gone by, so I suggest that we adopt the new process forthwith. Unless I hear otherwise I'll replace
        http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions
with the new process in a day or two.

We still need volunteers to become the maintainer of
        mtl
        random [though I think someone maybe did volunteer, Daniel perhaps?]
        Win32
Please!

best wishes

Simon

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