One of the attributes of the haskell community that I take pride in is the
balance between democracy and upholding standards.
High technical standards such as correctness, ease-of-reasoning, brevity
are valued, as well as high community standards such as humor, empathy,
addressing the other with dignity.
All the above, coupled with an openness to the world-at-large, is the kit
and kaboodle of the accidental haskeller.
So when the response to a newcomer boils down to "take your basic questions
elsewhere", I wonder about these values and I wonder about the community's
I for one regret losing the opportunity of exploring very interesting
questions about syntax, even elementary syntax, a common obstacle faced by
Consider how Haskell syntax was designed in a rare confluence of events
requiring tremendous buy-in (and patience, and empathy, and openness) from
a superficially similar but actually a very diverse group with vigorous,
In an environment that turns inimical to such basic, foundational values --